(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.00]
PW[Robert Jasiek]PB[Benjamin Teuber]DT[2006-12-08]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]
;B[jj]
;W[pd]
;B[qf]
;W[nc]
;B[po]
;W[ep]
;B[gq]
;W[dq]
;B[go]
;W[cm]C[DGoEM2 [?\]: Hello, this is a live feed from the German Championship 2006
]
;B[do]
;W[co]
;B[pq]
;W[pj]
;B[pl]C[joachim [3k?\]: typisch Benni, das er das Fuseki des Gegners spielt -)
]
;W[pg]
;B[pf]
;W[of]
;B[oe]
;W[qg]
;B[pe]
;W[qd]C[slownet [2k\]: naja, sum würde nie auf tengen spieln
]
;B[nf]
;W[og]
;B[nd]
;W[mc]
;B[ng]
;W[ql]
;B[qm]
;W[qk]
;B[pm]
;W[nj]
;B[mk]
;W[kq]
;B[mq]
;W[hp]
;B[hq]
;W[gp]
;B[ip]
;W[ho]
;B[io]
;W[hn]C[ArsMagica [5k\]: both are 6 dans?
]
;B[cp]C[DGoEM2 [?\]: Robert, 5d 
]
;W[in]C[KlausB [1k\]: wer ist denn heute 'schriftführer'?
DGoEM2 [?\]: gerade Olga, eigentlich Marcus, aber der ist gerade weg
]
;B[kp]
;W[cq]
;B[cn]
;W[dm]
;B[bo]
;W[iq]
;B[jq]
;W[ir]
;B[jr]
;W[jo]
;B[jp]
;W[bm]
;B[bq]
;W[br]
;B[ar]
;W[bs]
;B[bn]
;W[fq]C[Werfeus [4d\]: i sense tenuki
]
;B[hr]
;W[gr]
;B[is]C[tudorus [-\]: hmm
tudorus [-\]: ich hätte die leere ecke genommen
nofun [4d\]: strange
DGoEM2 [?\]: consistent
tudorus [-\]: vorallem hätte ja w jetzt auch nicht die steine gefangen
tudorus [-\]: vermute ich
DGoEM2 [?\]: black wants to take territory now, and fight everywhere else
nofun [4d\]: im not the one to criticise a 6d
DGoEM2 [?\]: me neither :-)
tudorus [-\]: why not? he can make mistakes too^^
nofun [4d\]: but i would never have played it :)
tudorus [-\]: you can say your opinion
Werfeus [4d\]: i surely criticise that
Werfeus [4d\]: being only 1d.. i don't see why to do that right now
Laza [3d\]: are these guys playing on KGS?
ArsMagica [5k\]: no
ArsMagica [5k\]: it's a live translation
]
;W[me]C[Laza [3d\]: nono... Do they have KGS account?
DGoEM2 [?\]: Robert is sum
nofun [4d\]: black is ahamay, iirc
DGoEM2 [?\]: Benni is ahamay
]
;B[md]
;W[ld]
;B[ne]
;W[kc]
;B[rg]
;W[rh]
;B[re]
;W[qi]
;B[rd]
;W[rc]
;B[oc]C[Obotchaman [4k\]: q18 funktioniert imo für weiss
Obotchaman [4k\]: äh q17
monika [1k?\]: ist hier pause?
DGoEM2 [?\]: Robert denkt
monika [1k?\]: ;-)
Werfeus [4d\]: like.. how much they have time
joachim [3k?\]: 2 hours each
Werfeus [4d\]: i hope robert is good in blitzyose..
joachim [3k?\]: 15 stones in 10 min
DGoEM2 [?\]: Robert: 45 Min, Benni: 33 Min
]
;W[qb]
;B[cd]
;W[ed]
;B[df]
;W[ch]C[cre [7k\]: Benjamin Teuber ist der freund von der olga, oder?
joachim [3k?\]: ja
]
;B[ec]
;W[fc]
;B[eb]
;W[dd]
;B[cc]
;W[ce]
;B[cf]
;W[be]
;B[de]
;W[bf]
;B[fd]
;W[fe]
;B[gd]
;W[ee]
;B[dh]
;W[ci]
;B[di]
;W[dc]
;B[db]
;W[cb]
;B[bb]
;W[bc]
;B[ca]
;W[bd]
;B[cb]
;W[eg]
;B[dg]
;W[cj]
;B[ge]
;W[fg]
;B[fi]
;W[hg]
;B[hi]
;W[lg]
;B[lf]
;W[kf]
;B[pb]
;W[od]
;B[nb]C[DGoEM2 [?\]: Robert 70 Min, Benni 53 Min
klabauter [4k\]: how strong are they?
lamka: germans = weak;))
tudorus [-\]: w 5d, b 6d
klabauter [4k\]: thx
sdfsa: lamka=idiot
klabauter [4k\]: lamka, where are u from?
lamka: cz
klabauter [4k\]: did u know: cz=weak?
O99: b gaining life through r15 sente ?
lamka: do german players compete with the rest of the world? any way? name international success, except cho seok bin whos not german;))
O99: seems to be gote life though...
]
;W[mb]
;B[sb]C[FuriKuri [1k\]: pair go worldcup
FuriKuri [1k\]: 5th place ^^°
DGoEM2 [?\]: Gerlach: 9th place in World Amateur Go Championship
lamka: which year?
DGoEM2 [?\]: this year
lamka: 26th: 5th fj dickhut, well ok
DGoEM2 [?\]: our players can compete... :-)
lamka: this year it is 8th SILT 9th Gerlach
lamka: any other result?
lamka: ok, i apologize
lamka: ;)
DGoEM2 [?\]: accepted
setarkos [2d\]: läuft die partie noch?!
DGoEM2 [?\]: Robert denkt...
setarkos [2d\]: hui
]
;W[sc]
;B[qe]
;W[qc]
;B[qa]C[Slain [1k?\]: lamka: germans = weak;)) << Benni was best non-asian participant in the last student world championship (7th place, only beaten by 3 chinese and 3 korean) :-P
FuriKuri [1k\]: lamka= bad kibitzler ...
gogonuts [4d\]: looks to me like w should play p19
FuriKuri [1k\]: w should extend U17 to get more libs...
gogonuts [4d\]: w s19, b p19 would be 2 step ko - awful for w
gogonuts [4d\]: but w p19 looks fine to me
gogonuts [4d\]: all b gets is a sente move at t16
]
;W[oa]C[gogonuts [4d\]: just living right away is good enough overall for b
gogonuts [4d\]: maybe first b n10
gogonuts [4d\]: for more adventure L13 also looks interesting :-)
]
;B[lh]
;W[kh]C[gogonuts [4d\]: hm, b is trying to save a move
gogonuts [4d\]: but i thingk this will actually make it easier for w to move into the lower right
]
;B[ke]
;W[le]
;B[jf]C[gogonuts [4d\]: hm, to achieve anything there b must be prepared to trade groups
gogonuts [4d\]: but the b group looks larger to me
]
;W[kg]C[gogonuts [4d\]: w should connect
]
;B[li]
;W[nh]C[gogonuts [4d\]: m11 is a good point, but b is maneuvering at cross purposes
]
;B[sd]C[gogonuts [4d\]: i dont agree with w O12
gogonuts [4d\]: w should have left himself the option of cutting further back
gogonuts [4d\]: after b lives w has to clean up on the left, so b is fine
]
;W[pa]
;B[sf]
;W[ie]C[gogonuts [4d\]: how about something like m11, J12, J11 now?
]
;B[ic]C[Skadi [3k?\]: :-)
gogonuts [4d\]: ofcourse, points are never bad :-)
gogonuts [4d\]: w must get rough now if he wants to have a chance
gogonuts [4d\]: anybody know what happens after g10, g11, J11, J10, h10?
]
;W[hk]C[gogonuts [4d\]: too soft in my opinion
]
;B[hf]C[Skadi [3k?\]: would b play g11 if it doesn't work?
]
;W[gf]C[Skadi [3k?\]: :-)
gogonuts [4d\]: i dont know if it doesnt work :-)
gogonuts [4d\]: w is also thin above
gogonuts [4d\]: b should be happy to make a bamboo connection instead of strugling to lose sente somewhere else
]
;B[if]C[gogonuts [4d\]: w h15?
gogonuts [4d\]: oops, dont know what would happen then after b J13
DGoEM2 [?\]: Robert is in byo-yomi
DGoEM2 [?\]: Benni still has 45 Min left
]
;W[ih]C[gogonuts [4d\]: now J11 is quite good for b
Tristero [1d\]: threatens to cut
gogonuts [4d\]: right
BeerHouse [5k\]: what competition is this?
gogonuts [4d\]: w missed a chance with J12 i think
gogonuts [4d\]: w J12 was the point for w himself
gogonuts [4d\]: i mean J11, sry
gogonuts [4d\]: b cant fight back properly
gogonuts [4d\]: oops again, b could peep first at g12 against w g12
gogonuts [4d\]: but still somethings wrong with J11
gogonuts [4d\]: J12, i mean you must think im nuts
gogonuts [4d\]: notice that after b J12 now w h15 does not work
gogonuts [4d\]: b could just connect at k15
]
;B[je]C[gogonuts [4d\]: ???
gogonuts [4d\]: terrible
gogonuts [4d\]: to repeat w h15 was nothing
gogonuts [4d\]: after b k15, w can atari at h16 and h17 and play h18
gogonuts [4d\]: but b J18 would capture
]
;W[ej]
;B[fh]C[gogonuts [4d\]: now i think J11, J10, H12, J13, N14, L11, M10, L10, L9, K9 wins for w
]
;W[ij]
;B[ii]
;W[ji]
;B[jh]
;W[jg]
;B[ki]C[gogonuts [4d\]: this cut was much worse
gogonuts [4d\]: now w has a liberty problem if he connects the ko
gogonuts [4d\]: because b H12 for J13 is sente
]
;W[ig]
;B[mf]
;W[mh]
;B[mg]
;W[kj]C[gogonuts [4d\]: gotta hand it to b - hes not interested in small solutions :-)
]
;B[jh]
;W[sh]
;B[sg]
;W[ji]
;B[jk]
;W[lj]
;B[jh]C[gogonuts [4d\]: but i think, if w had cut the other way b would have been toast
gogonuts [4d\]: this ko is one of the larger ones
]
;W[he]
;B[hd]
;W[ji]
;B[bg]
;W[cg]
;B[jh]
;W[jd]
;B[id]C[DGoEM2 [?\]: Robert used all stones, now enters second byo-yomi
]
;W[ji]C[miscco [6k?\]: hm sind noch zimelich viele große ko drohungen da
]
;B[mi]
;W[mj]
;B[jh]
;W[ei]C[sdfsa: vorbei
tudorus [-\]: ups
miscco [6k?\]: ?
gogonuts [4d\]: n12 was not a good threat
]
;B[eh]C[gogonuts [4d\]: just too expensive
MrShintou [-\]: doesn't white have an aji problem now
MrShintou [-\]: such as E14?
DGoEM2 [?\]: I rather doubt E11
Jazzman [1k\]: e 14 seems hurting
gogonuts [4d\]: w must win this ko
]
;W[ji]C[gogonuts [4d\]: the next b threat will go unaswered
sdfsa: s18
gogonuts [4d\]: s18 or g12?
tudorus [-\]: just e14
sdfsa: now too small
sdfsa: s18 is bigger
gogonuts [4d\]: i dont think so, or does w have another threat?
miscco [6k?\]: a4
sdfsa: a4 is tenuki
gogonuts [4d\]: i mean i dont think its e14, s18 could be correct
]
;B[ra]C[gogonuts [4d\]: a4 loses the game
gogonuts [4d\]: killing a tiny group in exchange for an all out ko
miscco [6k?\]: why s19
tudorus [-\]: more threats
MrShintou [-\]: ... its not big enough
tudorus [-\]: s kills all if w tenuki
Xeo [3k\]: because b has got O19
tudorus [-\]: yes
gogonuts [4d\]: s19 is good technique if n19 doenst help w any
]
;W[ni]
;B[na]C[tudorus [-\]: ups
MrShintou [-\]: e14 
Xeo [3k\]: ohoh
gogonuts [4d\]: w had to finish the ko i think
gogonuts [4d\]: whatever the result now is
sdfsa: w has lost
]
;W[gg]C[blueshoe [2k\]: f14 !
blueshoe [2k\]: big for white too
sdfsa: no
sdfsa: this exchange is better for b
sdfsa: h8
Xeo [3k\]: about 20pts better?!
sdfsa: 10 points
gogonuts [4d\]: MrShintou was right: e11 was very expensive for w
]
;B[km]
;W[qq]C[sdfsa: ?
gogonuts [4d\]: that move wont lose w anything
]
;B[qp]
;W[pr]
;B[qr]
;W[oq]
;B[rq]
;W[mm]
;B[lm]C[gogonuts [4d\]: b would love to get his hands on H8
]
;W[mn]
;B[ml]
;W[nl]
;B[nk]
;W[ok]
;B[ol]
;W[ll]
;B[nm]
;W[lk]
;B[nl]C[DGoEM2 [?\]: next byo-yomi period for Rbert
DGoEM2 [?\]: Robert
gogonuts [4d\]: resigning would be an option
DGoEM2 [?\]: Benni still has 15 Min
]
;W[ko]
;B[lo]
;W[ln]
;B[jn]
;W[kn]
;B[jm]
;W[nn]
;B[on]
;W[mp]C[Xeo [3k\]: o5 n5 o4 m4 m3 ?
]
;B[np]C[Duedi [5k\]: du bist so schlau^^
Duedi [5k\]: xD
]
;W[nq]C[Xeo [3k\]: hmpf ;)
Duedi [5k\]: muss essen;)
Xeo [3k\]: macht nichts *g*
Xeo [3k\]: :P
]
;B[mo]
;W[ib]
;B[hb]
;W[jb]
;B[lb]C[sdfsa: robert ist peinlich
]
;W[ma]
;B[ob]
;W[kb]
;B[la]C[Jazzman [1k\]: spieklt aber regelgerecht
]
;W[gb]C[Sponge7 [9k\]: tot, oder?
sdfsa: ist dennoch peinlich
]
;B[fb]C[Jazzman [1k\]: wäre mir zu peinlich, mich unregistriert über stärkere SPieler zu beschweren
DGoEM2 [?\]: Robert resigned
sdfsa: was willst du denn, spinner
DGoEM2 [?\]: hey, ruhig bleiben
Sponge7 [9k\]: ist Benjamin Teuber zu alt um profi zu werden?
DGoEM2 [?\]: Er sagt ja
Sponge7 [9k\]: er wäre aber stark genug?
DGoEM2 [?\]: und zu schwach
DGoEM2 [?\]: sagt er
DGoEM2 [?\]: :-)
])
